100% Power Outage in Puerto Rico

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and to top it off..because of their location n all.they have no means of storm shelters and all...
 
I wish them well down there. At least in fla and Houston there are a lot more resources to get things back up and running. It will be a long time before they get power and other infrastructure restored.
 
I have a good friend that was going there this Friday for vacation. They were going to have a family reunion there. Storm have no consideration or manners.
Week before last (right before Irma) my daughter had a week vacation booked for The Dominican Republic. She didn't know anything was up until she got notification that her flight was cancelled. She got the tickets changed to Cancun without any problem (and spent a week sandwiched between Katia and Irma), but getting a refund on the AirBnB was a different story.
 
Aye and its power company is already bankrupt, I dont think they can afford any repairs.

If they weren't before, they are now:
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/21/pue...ot-the-same-island-after-hurricane-maria.html
Gonzalez-Colon said Puerto Rico needs help re-establishing power. "One of the problems that we've got is once the power is out there water pumps are not working."

Even before the storms though, the electric grid was crumbling. Many believe it'll take weeks, if not months, to restore power.

Puerto Rico's recovery could be complicated by its mounting debts. Both the island's government and the public utility there have filed for bankruptcy protection.
 
I wish them well down there. At least in fla and Houston there are a lot more resources to get things back up and running. It will be a long time before they get power and other infrastructure restored.

FEMA has a very large warehouse located in Puerto Rico as one of it's strategic locations, they also have several Military bases including 7000 National Guardsman with a few Military air strips and Naval ports. Ships are loading up in Jacksonville with poles and grid backups to restore power to critical infrastructure, report is the ships will be leaving in a couple of days.
 
I wonder how they're going to pay for all that help. I thought PR was about to default on their debt obligations. Oh wait I forget, the good ol US taxpayers will bail them out and ship boat loads US tax dollars down there.

Paperwork from June of this year is being presented to Congress to request Puerto Rico become the 51st State, once Congress excepts the package for review, it will request another vote from Puerto Rico, the debate could last 2 to 3 years in Congress. If Puerto Rico becomes a State, it's debt would be erased by the US Federal Government (meaning us tax payers)

In 2016 the Federal Government refused to bail out Puerto Rico, now Puerto Rico wants Statehood... got to love the sucker punch dance :-/
 
Paperwork from June of this year is being presented to Congress to request Puerto Rico become the 51st State, once Congress excepts the package for review, it will request another vote from Puerto Rico, the debate could last 2 to 3 years in Congress. If Puerto Rico becomes a State, it's debt would be erased by the US Federal Government (meaning us tax payers)

In 2016 the Federal Government refused to bail out Puerto Rico, now Puerto Rico wants Statehood... got to love the sucker punch dance :-/
As usual the US tax payer gets stuck with the bill.
 
Sometimes "discussion transitions" make me laugh.

This thread started talking about power outage across PR. And it has evolved into money-outage across PR. Which is worse!

On the good side, my guess is that Trump won't bail them out. Sure, he will send down a few boats of supplies/etc. Call that humanitarian aid. And he will pat his own back over that (it's his nature). But I don't see him replacing their crumbled infrastructure that has collapsed not from the hurricane, but from decades of neglect. They made the mess, they can live in it.

They made the debt, they can still pay it (or default on it is more likely).
 
FEMA has a very large warehouse located in Puerto Rico as one of it's strategic locations, they also have several Military bases including 7000 National Guardsman with a few Military air strips and Naval ports. Ships are loading up in Jacksonville with poles and grid backups to restore power to critical infrastructure, report is the ships will be leaving in a couple of days.
Glad to hear the NG was already in place. The place took a hard hit.
 
My understanding a dam is on the verge of collapsing, they are having issues alerting everyone below it, without power practically all don't have tv or radios to get the message, plus most of the roads isn't passable.
I had heard of the dam showing a crack but hadn't even considered the effect of no power for communicating the warning. Without electricity we really are back in the stone ages.
 
I've been thinking about the Mexico City earthquake vs the Puerto Rico hurricane. Which is worse, which does more damage or deaths?

The early answer is clear. The earthquake killed more people (300-500 vs under 10), but the hurricane caused more damage.

But I wonder what the 'real' number of deaths from the hurricane will be. Yes, only a few died on the first day. But for example look at FL, how many elderly died in nursing homes? In PR, how many elderly will lack care & die from it? How many will drink or eat contaminated water/food causing death? How many do not get the medical care they could get in normal conditions and die? How many die in accidents cleaning up or attempting repairs?

These are all deaths that are never reported nor are the really possible to collect. Dozens? Possibly hundreds?

The same questions could be asked of the earthquake. I've already added the people trapped or unable to escape who died in the number above. But I don't think there will be much more to add to those numbers.

And looking at infrastructure, everything is destroyed by a hurricane. Power lines, fuel storage, roads, homes, everything. The quake is much less damaging. It knocked a few buildings down & some poles & such, but only a fraction compared to the water.

So comparing the two, my opinion is that the hurricane is significantly worse. Of course this is comparing a cat 5 vs a 7.1 quake. It is interesting to compare/contrast.
 
I've been thinking about the Mexico City earthquake vs the Puerto Rico hurricane. Which is worse, which does more damage or deaths?

The early answer is clear. The earthquake killed more people (300-500 vs under 10), but the hurricane caused more damage.

But I wonder what the 'real' number of deaths from the hurricane will be. Yes, only a few died on the first day. But for example look at FL, how many elderly died in nursing homes? In PR, how many elderly will lack care & die from it? How many will drink or eat contaminated water/food causing death? How many do not get the medical care they could get in normal conditions and die? How many die in accidents cleaning up or attempting repairs?

These are all deaths that are never reported nor are the really possible to collect. Dozens? Possibly hundreds?

The same questions could be asked of the earthquake. I've already added the people trapped or unable to escape who died in the number above. But I don't think there will be much more to add to those numbers.

And looking at infrastructure, everything is destroyed by a hurricane. Power lines, fuel storage, roads, homes, everything. The quake is much less damaging. It knocked a few buildings down & some poles & such, but only a fraction compared to the water.

So comparing the two, my opinion is that the hurricane is significantly worse. Of course this is comparing a cat 5 vs a 7.1 quake. It is interesting to compare/contrast.

Though if you count the quake Japan 2011 with both quake damage and tsunami damage in terms of death and destruction, quakes with tsunamis kill more people than hurricanes.
 
Though if you count the quake Japan 2011 with both quake damage and tsunami damage in terms of death and destruction, quakes with tsunamis kill more people than hurricanes.
Dont forget about the big quake/tsunami of 12/2004, over 300k deaths, definatly cause more deaths than hurricanes
 

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