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Brent S
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I love it! I was wondering when someone would try to make an electric truck. I think over the next ten to fifteen years we will see all kinds of innovation coming with electric vehicles. When someone comes up with a good advancement with batteries then the industry will explode.
Silent Earth
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I think they are even going to build PINK ones for Texans 
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I am rather fond of Willys Jeeps, 1960s land cruisers, Land Rover and Range Rover's.
When I seen the video at first glance the first impression was, ah land rover changed the hood on their Defenders than I seen how square it was. I wonder if I can install a 350 w/400 turbo on the B-1? I'm still on the fence regarding electrics, not sure how the batteries would hold up in the freezing temp, up here it would be far easier to carry extra fuel than taking extra battery packs for this new truck :-/ but I do like the body style plus the wheel base looks a little wider than than the four older vehicles I listed above either that or the tires are wider.
When I seen the video at first glance the first impression was, ah land rover changed the hood on their Defenders than I seen how square it was. I wonder if I can install a 350 w/400 turbo on the B-1?
I'm still on the fence regarding electrics, not sure how the batteries would hold up in the freezing temp, up here it would be far easier to carry extra fuel than taking extra battery packs for this new truck :-/ but I do like the body style plus the wheel base looks a little wider than than the four older vehicles I listed above either that or the tires are wider.
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electric cars until the come out with one that has a 1000 mile range you will never see me in one
Little tykes makes some good stuff I guess
TexasFreedom
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Electric cars are a giant lie. Let me explain.
Let's say you've got a Prius that runs 50 mpg (they average 45, I'll be generous). Let's say you go 150k miles & gas is $2.50/gal. Easy math: 3k gallons, $7500 in fuel. Oh but wait, about that time you'll need to buy a $4000 battery. So to drive the 150k miles, you spend $11,500.
Now consider any 'sedan' (Toyota Camry?) that gets 30 mpg. Drive the 150k miles, again easy math. 5k gallons. At $2.50, that's $12,500.
Yup, you save $1,000. But if gas is $2/gal, the costs become $10k for Prius and the same $10k for Camry.
But who would prefer to drive a tiny Prius compared to a mid-sized Camry?
Or more apples-to-apples: look at the VW Jetta diesel. It is smaller like the Prius and I know a few people who get 50+ mpg. It'll be in the $7500 range @ $2.50/gal, a very nice $4k savings over the Prius.
So you aren't saving anything driving an electric car. And if you add the ecological impact of making the batteries it's worse for the environment!
Let's say you've got a Prius that runs 50 mpg (they average 45, I'll be generous). Let's say you go 150k miles & gas is $2.50/gal. Easy math: 3k gallons, $7500 in fuel. Oh but wait, about that time you'll need to buy a $4000 battery. So to drive the 150k miles, you spend $11,500.
Now consider any 'sedan' (Toyota Camry?) that gets 30 mpg. Drive the 150k miles, again easy math. 5k gallons. At $2.50, that's $12,500.
Yup, you save $1,000. But if gas is $2/gal, the costs become $10k for Prius and the same $10k for Camry.
But who would prefer to drive a tiny Prius compared to a mid-sized Camry?
Or more apples-to-apples: look at the VW Jetta diesel. It is smaller like the Prius and I know a few people who get 50+ mpg. It'll be in the $7500 range @ $2.50/gal, a very nice $4k savings over the Prius.
So you aren't saving anything driving an electric car. And if you add the ecological impact of making the batteries it's worse for the environment!
Arcticdude
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Plus all that electric needs to be generated by what.....coal, natural gas, nuclear? I don't understand why people keep fighting aginst the most abundant, cheap, clean and reliable source of energy ever discovered for transportation. Except for a few liberal green weenies nobody wants an electric car, as it exists today. When or if there's ever a demand for a good reliable, safe and usable non petrol vehicle, somebody will come up with something.
Silent Earth
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Imagine getting stuck for over 12 hours in mid winter possibly after dark on a motorway freeway because of a pile up or blizzard, and you have to run your heater, paring lights and demister just to be safe........................ Then when the battery goes flat you cannot pop to another driver or gas station and buy a can of electricity. I wont ever drive electric I'm a DIESEL man vastly superior in all counts over gas or electric.
Technology is ever changing, so I've learned to never say never.
Today, I agree that electric cars aren't practical for all the reasons mentioned. Tomorrow, who knows? Maybe you will be able to swap batteries at filling stations like swapping propane tanks, and each battery pack may take you 1000 miles or more. Or maybe you will tank up on hydrogen to run your fuel cells (the technology I've been waiting for).
There is a new solid state battery technology that is more akin to a super capacitor that can completely charge in seven minutes. It can operate in a wide temperature range. Cell phones will be able to run for a week between recharging.
Sodium ion batteries have a similar charge density as Li-ion, but are safe for the environment and can be recharged 2000 times.
Copper foam batteries may be cheaper and easier to manufacture, have five times higher charge density and longer life than Li-ion, and are completely non-flammible.
Aluminum graphite batteries can charge in one minute, but currently have a lower charge density than Li-ion
A prototype aluminum-air battery powered car went 1100 miles on a charge.
Today, I agree that electric cars aren't practical for all the reasons mentioned. Tomorrow, who knows? Maybe you will be able to swap batteries at filling stations like swapping propane tanks, and each battery pack may take you 1000 miles or more. Or maybe you will tank up on hydrogen to run your fuel cells (the technology I've been waiting for).
There is a new solid state battery technology that is more akin to a super capacitor that can completely charge in seven minutes. It can operate in a wide temperature range. Cell phones will be able to run for a week between recharging.
Sodium ion batteries have a similar charge density as Li-ion, but are safe for the environment and can be recharged 2000 times.
Copper foam batteries may be cheaper and easier to manufacture, have five times higher charge density and longer life than Li-ion, and are completely non-flammible.
Aluminum graphite batteries can charge in one minute, but currently have a lower charge density than Li-ion
A prototype aluminum-air battery powered car went 1100 miles on a charge.
Brent S
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Better batteries are coming. I still think it's a shame that we weren't smart enough to peruse this technology 40 years ago.
Arcticdude
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Electric cars have around for well over 100 years. The first practical electric vehicle was a small locomotive in 1839, I think. There just isn't any demand for electric vehicles. Not as long as we have such an abundance of a much better, cheaper and reliable energy source. But anyone that thinks electric cars are the way to go should put their money where their mouth is and go buy one.
Brent S
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As soon as the range is better I would sign up in a heartbeat. The acceleration in an electric is amazing! Smooth, quiet, no oil to change, way fewer parts to break down, etc. right now the battery is the weak point, but give it time.
Arcticdude
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There has been some great improvements in electric cars and batteries over the last 100 or so years. And no doubt there will be more exciting breakthroughs in the future. Many people have the misconception that driving an electric vehicle will save them money. But here's a little overlooked fact about electric, or high mileage vehicles. Forget the initial high cost, the government will be losing revenue if too many people switch. So then the government will require a data recorder in the electric car and track your milage and record your every move. Then once a month you get a tax bill based on your miles driven. So now where's the savings? They're already doing this in some States as "pilot" programs. The socilist state of Oregon is one example. So now that takes some of the incentive out of driving around in a little tin coffin.
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