Anyone else stocking ammo and

firearms?

I'm doing food goods, med supplies and such of course.

I'm a hunter, modern guns, black powder, archery, etc.

I have at least 100 rounds per gun, rifle and handgun, much more for what I
call general purpose arms, i.e. the .223/5.56, .22 rim fire, 12 bore shotgun.

Others that get at least 100 rounds (or more) are the .38 +P spl, .357 magnum, .41 and
.44 magnums .45 a.c.p. and .45 colt. ( I love handguns. )

For the .22 rim fire I have 15,000 rounds and climbing.

Why so many .22 r.f. rounds. Simple. Its the rounds I'll use most to harvest small game.

Small game will be more available and easier to harvest than deer.

Thoughts and suggestions always welcome.

Oh! I have a .50 caliber Optima inline and a .58 replica Zouave coming too.
I have lots and lots of Swiss, Goex, and Elephant (yuk) Holy Black powder.

The Elephant works but is nasty dirty, far worse than even Goex.
Swiss in premium and EXPENSIVE today.

I paid $7 bucks a pound and today it's $25 bucks or more.

I got a good round number of ammo for all my firearms in particularity my defensive firearms and lots of pounds of reloading powder stored in water proof containers submerged in a water well.

I think your right about the 22 being a good thing to stockpile. Both as small game and even as a defensive weapon. It may not have instant knockdown power but has been shown to kill more often than even the largest rounds that blast through a body. The lowly 22 is more likely to bounce around and more likely to hit a major organ. If I had one weapon to pick the 22lr would be it.

Maverick said:

I got a good round number of ammo for all my firearms in particularity my defensive firearms and lots of pounds of reloading powder stored in water proof containers submerged in a water well.

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Amen to that!

I don't reload any longer, preferring to buy in bulk when funds permit.

That said I still have at least 30 pounds of Holy black powder and about....

ready?????????? 100 pounds of assorting smokeless and all my reloading
equipment.

Be advised all that powder, bullets, and associated equipment are things
I've bought over the decades as funds permitted.

I'm disabled from police work and retired from G.M. and funds are
limited.

Retired = be frugal with money.

I did 22.5 years in police work.

I did 10 as a detective, 3 of those 10 as Chief of investigations then
made Lt. and took over a shift.

It was as Lt. that I got my back broken for the 4th and final time.

I did NINE MONTHS in rehab learning to get use of my left leg again.
13 major injuries, 3 concussions, back broken and otherwise messed
up 4 times....................and more.

Rt knee so badly damaged I had surgery and a stainless steel/Teflon
implant.

The back still hurts like @ell as I get older but the knee is fine.

PTSD and depression took it's toll also.

I didn't like getting shot at and beaten!

Is it surprising the city I policed was 45% ethnic???? and I was a white cop?

Hypothetically I have enough stockpiled to last myself and family a lifetime. Along with a large amount of reloading supplies and components.

Arcticdude said:

Hypothetically I have enough stockpiled to last myself and family a lifetime. Along with a large amount of reloading supplies and components.

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Hypothetically of course.

as here too,strictly hypothetically.

No one I know or those I wouldn't trust 100% knows what I have or where
my goodies are.

Not all are in my home or safe.

Just sayin.

100 rounds is a brief practice session at the range...

DrHenley said:

100 rounds is a brief practice session at the range...

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Another opinion worth what all opinions are worth.

A rather negative opinion at that.

When I was actively competing I fired at least 200 rounds a day, 3 X a week with

various handguns,


I was trained in long range shooting by Carlos Hathcock. ( r.i.p. )

I was also trained by the Smith and Wesson Academy.

Handguns and long range shooting, then called surgical shooting.

"sniper" was deemed offensive to the taxpaying public.

Massad Ayoob and I put on training seminars together years ago.

If you don't know who Massad is you haven't read much about shooting.

If you want to doubt my abilities then give me a .38 spl. revolver

and stand at 125 yards and feel the pain.

Just sayin'.

By the way. I had an old model Ruger Super Single Six and killed

a groundhog at 125 long paces. Witnessed.

My longest shot on a groundhog was 625 yards, a called head shot,

with a Ruger single shot h-bar in .220 Swift.

Little to no wind that day.

Those who can DO.

Those who can't TEACH.

Those how can't teach TEACH TEACHERS.


The rest just don't believe some people have been there and DONE THAT.

My BEST "can't do it" shot on a whitetail deer was 175 paces with a

smooth bore 12 gauge using the old Foster slugs and the slug took it's

head off.

If you don't know what a Foster slug is you aren't real experienced

with shotguns.

Most of the gun harvest deer I've taken, 60 +, have been running.

Lost wounded deer? Zero.

I've taken a couple with archery at 40 and 55 yards.

Kill shots.

I'm a lot older now and somewhat crippled from injuries suffered in

police work but still manage to take a deer every season.

One is all I want.

I have the 49th largest archery harvest in Ohio.

Nice buck. It's on the wall.

I quit shooting "modern" archery and went back to trad equipment.

jeager said:

Another opinion worth what all opinions are worth.

A rather negative opinion at that.

When I was actively competing I fired at least200 rounds a day, 3 X a week with
various handguns,

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That wasn't an opinion, negative or positive. Just one man's experience to give some perspective to "100 rounds" for those who don't shoot much and might think 100 rounds is a boatload of ammo. And since your full practice sessions were about the same as mine (roughly 200 rounds) your experience also!

So why bash my post and then turn around and agree with it? What am I missing?

It's me that's missing.

" Of all the things I've lost in my life I miss by mind the most. "

I have stockpiled moderate amounts of ammo. I put it mostly in a trunk with Damp Rid.

I read an interesting article about stored ammo.

This guy was shooting mint condition SuperVel from the 70's in a lab pressure barrel that measured SAMMI specs.

Evidentally, stored ammo can actually create more pressure as the chemistry of the powder slowly changes over time.

This gun writer believed that old SuperVel might actually damage the gun.

I will track down the article later and provide a link.

By the way, the ammo was over 35 years old...so I don't think that storing it for five or ten years would be a problem.

It may also be possible that recently manufactured ammo has a more sophisticated chemistry where possibly this wouldn't happen

This is from SAAMI, (Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute)

HOW TO CHECK SMOKELESS POWDER FOR DETERIORATION Although modern smokeless powders contain stabilizers and are basically free from deterioration under proper storage conditions, safe practices require a recognition of the signs of deterioration and its possible effects. Deteriorating smokeless powders produce an acidic odor and may produce a reddish brown fume. (Don’t confuse this with common solvent odors such as alcohol, ether and acetone.) Dispose of deteriorating smokeless powders immediately. Check to make certain that smokeless powder is not exposed to extreme heat as this may cause deterioration. Such exposure produces an acidity which accelerates further reaction and has been known, because of heat generated by the reaction, to cause spontaneous combustion.

Mil spec ammo cans!

Modern ammo will last long enough that you won't be around to
worry about it.

Mil spec ammo cans were made to store ammo outdoors in all weather.

I have mil spec ammo cans but lately have bought the PLASTIC type
with the same kind of water resistant seal around the lid.

Why plastic?

Plastic won't rust.

Plastic mil spec cans are very available while the mil type are drying up.

Your opinions may vary.

Rebuttal welcome.

jeager said:

Mil spec ammo cans!

Modern ammo will last long enough that you won't be around to
worry about it.

Mil spec ammo cans were made to store ammo outdoors in all weather.

I have mil spec ammo cans but lately have bought the PLASTIC type
with the same kind of water resistant seal around the lid.

Why plastic?

Plastic won't rust.

Plastic mil spec cans are very available while the mil type are drying up.

Your opinions may vary.

Rebuttal welcome.

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Not a rebuttal, I think an good argument can be made for both.
I have the plastic ones but most are Military metal cans. For storage and range shooting the plastic ones serves me just fine, for evacs (JIC), field work and vehicle storage the metal ones are preferred. The only plastic Military ammo cans I seen here were by Source and for the 25mm, most others were from MTM, Pelican etc.. I had a MTM full of 7.62x51 and dropped it on river rocks little less than 5ft causing the corner to crack, the plastic cans from Source are almost bomb proof but harder to get locally and not cheap. The Military surplus plastic ammo cans are far harder to get than the metal surplus ones.

jeager said:

Mil spec ammo cans!
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Rebuttal welcome.

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No argument here. While I kind of like the metal ones just from a nostalgic perspective, I actually use the plastic ones.

field work and vehicle storage the metal ones are preferred.

Now there's a great suggestion.

Metal ones in the field and vehicle make sense.

Sadly the mil spec ones went up in prices as the surplus supply is drying up.

Just found .30 cal. ammo cans for $8.99.

Not bad.

Link: https://www.armysurplusworld.com/category/ammo-cans/

They have more than just .30 caliber cans also.

Let me know what you think and if you've found sources with better prices.

jeager said:

field work and vehicle storage the metal ones are preferred.

Now there's a great suggestion.

Metal ones in the field and vehicle make sense.

Sadly the mil spec ones went up in prices as the surplus supply is drying up.

Just found .30 cal. ammo cans for $8.99.

Not bad.

Link: https://www.armysurplusworld.com/category/ammo-cans/

They have more than just .30 caliber cans also.

Let me know what you think and if you've found sources with better prices.

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These guys too - https://www.sgttroys.com - Their site doesn't work on an iPad, but they've got a bunch. I never noticed if they had plastic ones or not when I was there.

If metal ammo cans dry up and you really want one, why not substitute a metal tool box of the same (or similar) dimensions?